Wednesday, January 31, 2007

Muslim and Muslima – the fundamentalist couple by Fahad


Up Close and Personal Conversations of a fundamental Muslim couple married for few years, their life behind the veil and the beard.

Part 1

Muslim and Muslima were out to attend a wedding, they came back home and discussed the events which happened earlier.

Muslim: how did it go? did u enjoy the wedding?
Muslima: Yes, it was nice but there were a few things that I got upset about….

Muslim: why what happened? Did someone say something?
Muslima: well, I was just sitting and talking about Islam with some of the ladies there and the topic about how we should strive in the way of Allah and try and stay away from some forms of entertainment like movies and songs and etc….and how you’ve kept a beard and I do the hijaab(veil)..and then one of the women referred to me as a fundamentalist just because of these views…I got bugged a bit..i mean why did she call us fundamentalist?

Muslim: Hey, cool down. Sometimes it happens. I get to hear it too…People always say things that they have no knowledge about, but you should know.… The American Heritage Dictionary defines fundamentalism as a usually like a religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism.

Muslimah: so what..they think we’re intolerant of the Jews and Christians? We’re not criticizing them – coz that wasn’t the way of the Prophet PBUH.. Instead we even give them respect by calling them people of the book which comes from Same Allah as ours....

Muslim:..true… just hear me out..so next time you can explain if someone brings it up again…the way Fundamentalism is used today, is a fairly recent creation closely linked with the historical and cultural contexts of 1920s U.S. Protestantism (e.g. the Fundamentalist-Modernist Controversy in the Presbyterian Church). Since then the term has been 'exported' abroad and applied to a wide variety of religions including Buddhism, Judaism, and Islam.


Fundamentalism, as a movement, arose in the United States starting among conservative Presbyterian academics and theologians at Princeton Theological Seminary in the first decade of the Twentieth Century. It spread from there to conservatives among the Baptists and other denominations during and immediately after the First World War. The movement's purpose was to reaffirm orthodox Protestant Christianity and to defend it zealously against the challenges of liberal theology, German higher criticism, Darwinism, and other "-isms" it regarded as harmful to Christianity.

Muslima: so if the word itself was created by western society not any religion, so why do they imply that people of Islam are fundamentalists, when it was created by some group of people which misinterpreted the religion itself? and how does me wearing the veil or you keeping the beard make us fundamentalists? I never considered wearing a veil as a fundamentalist belief. Nuns wear it too.why don’t they think about that?. Besides which, the veil gives me a sense of self respect, I am not harassed and I don’t get sexual advances by men who are strangers to me, and Allah Himself has given the respect to women by making them Mothers, Sisters,Wives and Daughters.. I mean why don’t people understand that women don’t want men to think that they are free to check women out. Shouldn’t that just be our husbands’ right? Isn't that reflecting more love and commitment to your husband? everything in Islam is so closely related. Relationships and respect go hand in hand. Revealing clothes just make you more open to advances by men, who think well if she’s showing it off then why shouldn't we look? Just the way the beard is a sunnah of the Prophet PBUH,it gives you an identity of being a Muslim. Unity amongst all Muslim men regardless of race , status or culture.

Muslim: Yeah, that’s true but its easier for us to say because we acquire knowledge and try and be as practising as possible, but people who find it hard to give up temptations of life call us fundamentalists. Sometimes you can’t blame them, they have grown up in a society which is based on learning from media and personalities instead of a religion beliefs and sometimes they don’t dig beneath the surface to find the truth about what Islam really preaches.

Musima: anyways, every body is born free so we should have the freedom to practice whatever is good for us. Wearing a veil doesn't mean that i am behind bars,It’s the freedom to practice your religion the right way.…I mean everyone talks about Human rights all the time. Instead we are bullied and made to feel that we belong to a different world all together….

Muslim: true, but the misconceptions are spread by people who don’t understand true Islam, and sometimes even Muslims don’t support you. Everyone has been brainwashed to think Muslims oppress women, they kill people, and create havoc on earth…..

Muslima: oppress…that just reminded me…one of the ladies asked me “OH, so did your husband force you to wear the hijaab(veil)?” I kinda tried to explain to her that you never forced me, nor our religion tells us to force anyone to convert like people say and that there is no compulsion in religion. Islam never forces anyone to convert, even in Islamic history our Prophet preferred peace over war unless it was forced upon Muslims. But the thing is that even if you would've asked me to strictly adhere to wearing the veil, it would have been for the betterment of my faith,respect and dignity. Sometimes it is hard to follow, but the thing is that if women understand that it is for their own good and that Allah swt wouldn’t command Muslims to do anything that would bring disrespect to them, it just makes it easier then..

Muslim: yeah, but not everyone thinks that way…even some Muslims don’t…everyone has their own interpretation and sometimes they change the religion for their convenience. Some of the Muslims and some of people of other religions don’t want to learn, or don’t have time to learn about Islam, whatever they hear from different sources they take it on face value. Even because of some weak women who are afraid to Practice the right way of Islam go against it, and they try to show the world that they are oppressed.They give evidences regarding many things about oppression but forget to tell the world what they are required to do..

Muslima: Islam is so misunderstood! I mean people actually look at our way of life as an oppression to our kind. And yah those kind of Muslim women, they are the worst kind. If they cant follow the truth then they should leave their husbands and move on rather then complaining about it They have the freedom do that, but standing up against your religion doesn't make sense...I wish those sisters also make an effort with their lives to study Islam and if they don't want to then they should at least leave us alone to practice the religion as it is .....and by the way those women are the ones who also complain about sexual harassments and disrespect .......
so eventually they are never happy with anything.....

Muslim: Yah, thats true ..I also pray that Muslim men who don't like their wives for not listening to them should let them free and find those women who would want to practice Islam from their hearts, instead of oppressing them and trying to change something they don't want to do... You just cant force anyone to believe in something they don't want to do. A human being who wants to create problems against good people will only increase as time goes by, so we should let them to be judged by Allah(SWT) and Generally over all View towards Islam will only change when people of different faith start learning it and try to acquire more knowledge about the real Islam…. Humans are prone to errors, so you cant generalize a religion on the basis of some people weather Muslim or Non Muslims. I hope people stop listening to everyone instead they should try and learn about our religion from Quran and Sayings of Our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) .

Muslima: true they should judge us by our real religion not by people who try to change it for obvious reasons.....anyways,we should discuss it further sometime later, inshÁllah I hope Allah guides us all…

Veil in Bible:

"Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head...If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head"
1 Corrinthians 11:3-6

"I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God"
1 Timothy 2:9-10

Veil in Quran:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
Quran 33:59 ...

they (believing women) should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women...or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex..."
Quran 24:31

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

its really interesting how u put all those words together and make it all so much easier...for us!!! to read and understand. i hope and pray for all the women out there...may ALLAH makes us a better person and a good human being...and help us to wear hijab like we really should...ameen! sofia uk

nzm said...

Thanks Fahad.

This is really interesting and easy to read.

My takeaway from it is that just like a lot of other religions on this earth, Islam also "struggles" with different interpretations by followers and non-followers of the "correct" way of Islam - if there is such a thing.

My perhaps idealistic thought on this is that, until there is a general consensus from within the religions on what Islam, Catholism, Anglicism and all other religions entail and these are presented in a united way, there will always be dissension and misinterpretation.

The most difficult part would be getting everyone to agree when there are so many different opinions!

So my answer would be, as this couple reflects, to look within ourselves and live as we know is the right way for us to live, and to be answerable to God and to ourselves as witnesses that what we do is good.

trailingspouse said...

"small children who have no sense of the shame of sex..." I'm curious as to why sex is shameful. Private, yes, but why shameful? If God created man and woman, he also created sex as a way for them to have children. So why would something God created be shameful?

Anonymous said...

Trainlingspouse, the Arabic (original) words in Quran don’t say “shame of sex”. The word “shame” is coming from the English translation. An approximate meaning of the words is: “the children who don’t understand women’s appeal”. I am also not able to write an exact translation, because of my English. You can ask any friend who understands Arabic to verify this, but it definitely has nothing to do with the word “shame” as we understand it.

Fahad, great post! I truly enjoyed the reading.

Fahad said...

@ trailingspouse : thanks for bringing this topic up i would have replied to your question in the comments but i guess it would be better if i write something on it cause its a very important subject so please look up my blog in few days ..i hope i do justice to your question anways thanks for visiting my blog :)

trailingspouse said...

Hatem and Fahad, thank you for responding to my question. I had wondered if it was all a matter of translation. I think this is a problem westerners face in understanding many aspects of Islam. They read bits, in English, which they are told are translations of the holy books, but in reality the original intention has got mashed beyond recognition. I will certainly come back and read what you have to say.

Fahad said...

@ Nzm: i m really sorry i missed out a reply for your comment as im still learning to be a blogger.:)..anyways better late thn never....thanks for a excellent comment this is probably the best comment i have yet recieved from anyone.. i am happy that you understood the point better thn what i expected, people need to learn the way to live which they think is right and other people should respect it ...so keep coming back and leave more comments...and i agree with everything you said..... take care

nzm said...

Fahad: thanks! You can be sure I'll be back as I enjoy your posts and I learn from them. They also make me think about things from a different angle. Thanks also for your comment on our blog - I've added you to our blogroll so that I can see when you have updated!

Trailingspouse: you've echoed what I consider to be the biggest obstacle to understanding, consent and harmony: translation and interpretation. This applies across a wide variety of subjects - sciences, arts etc - and in all religions.

For example when the Bible talks of Jesus as being the Son of God. By some, this has been taken literally - wow, Jesus is God's son, and then this wonderful story of a virgin birth is told of how he came to be delivered to earth.

For others, it translates as yes, Jesus is God's son, as we are all God's sons and daughters, and that Jesus was an exceptional man (prophet), born to Mary and Joseph, who devoted his life to travelling and teaching others to be good human beings and living lives that would, above all, please God.

My personal belief is that while there are people with different agendas to push, there will be many interpretations of the words in the Qu'ran, Bible, Torah and other holy books in order to justify/prove their particular points of view.

After all, this is how these books were written in the first place - translations of the word of God by men.

I'm not trying to denigrate the holy books in any way by saying this, but for me it was an important step along my spiritual journey to recognise that what is written in them is simply a guide for life - to be referred to and adapted into my life that made sense for me - and in a way that didn't make what I believe to be mandatory for others to follow!

I carry my beliefs within me - in my heart, soul and mind - and they are reflected in how I live in this world. I don't feel the need to go to a church to speak to God - going to church diluted the experience for me, there was too much ritual that I didn't believe in - too much made of the act of worshipping God that the real message was lost. I now converse with him every day in some way. It's a one-on-one conversation! This works for me.

Out of all of this, that's what has to count - what works for you. You can be guided by spiritual teachers, but in the end, it's important to make up your own mind. I believe that how I choose to communicate with God is between him and me!

We are all children of God and descendents of Abraham.

[I'll stop here because otherwise Fahad will think that his blog has been taken over! See what your writing can make me think about? It's all good - for me anyway! :-)]

Anonymous said...

THE BEST ACT OF IBADAT IS TO SPREAD THE SUNNAH THROUHG HADITH AND QURAN ..AND BY 'NOT TALKING SO MUCH' TALKING TO MUCH CAN BRING BIDAA INTO THE RELEGION AND WASTINGS ONE TIME....

I THNK TRUE MUSLIMS SHOULDNT TALK TO MUCH..ITS IMPURIFIES THE SOUL

ONE SHOULD ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE PURE SOURCE .......QURAN AND SUNNAH...AND OUR SCHOLARS...

P.S SORRY FOR THE SPELLING GRAMMER


WASALAM WR WB